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Noah Stephenson's avatar

EXACTLY. Pardon the overly long comment upcoming, but you made me think of something that I find fascinating—

There’s a corollary to — and support for — your point here, too, in that somebody could ALSO easily just become a very unfulfilled mess of a person if they even DID “ai-off-load” SUBSISTENCE-labor rather than wage labor.

Like, the primacy of “making more art” in the quote you sample— as the only thing we’d be doing if not working— feels like evidence that its author doesn’t understand labor in any other context than capitalism. It’s like she thinks that all the human body and mind unshackled from capitalism can be used for is intellectual pursuits. And that kinda reeks of western-enlightenment/cartesian-dualism kind of stuff, to me at least.

And to be clear, intellectual pursuits ARE important pursuits, but they’re not the ONLY ones worth spending time on, whether when living with wage-labor as a reality or not.

Yes, discounting manual labor as unworthy of “humans” not only suggests that those who DO end up tasked with that work are deemed “less than,” but it also might suggest that exerting oneself in endeavors OTHER THAN those considered more “high class” and therefore, arguably, more self-satisfied and entitled to praise (e.g; “art,” entertainment) are not worthy of us either.

But that attitude really doesn’t seem to engage with anthropological history as it regards how humans have spent their time/WITH whom for the vast majority of human history/before the advent of industrial-civilization.

Hell, plenty of indigenous people (apropos enough, a demographic over represented in the same socio-economic pool singled-out by implication when devaluing WAGED manual labor, if/when they get pulled into the capitalist system) have survived and continue to survive by way of subsistence labor to varying degrees; growing/foraging for/hunting a fair amount of their own food, building their own housing, etc. And that is usually something done as a divided-labor task; sure, every person might have a different role that they’re good at and stick with, BUT that doesn’t DEVALUE the other people’s roles by default. Just because you’re “an artist” and therefore “smart” doesn’t mean the carpenter or the gardener is lowly by comparison or “not smart.”

The point is not that the “hand work” is somehow more dignified or more “close to nature” than that of the mind, inherently (another basis for unhelpful myths about “noble savages” and whatnot)— but rather that intellectual subsistence labor (e.g: communal-bonding labor like setting up spiritual ceremonies) and physical subsistence labor (e.g: sourcing the food that those worshippers eat) cannot exist without each other. You can’t separate the manual from the intellectual because the people who are good at each NEED each other to survive.

Even if/when we live in a world where free-market relations no longer exist— there is still required a basic respect for each other’s roles. To sound annoyingly grad-school about it, a “dialectic “ is certainly present there!

Rugged individualism and the myth of “the lone genius” will leave you isolated, skill-less, or both: unable to enjoy your 21st century luxuries because you’ve devalued the workforce needed to sustain it so much that they’ll all get replaced by robots who do the job shittily; and/or unable to live in a collective fashion with others who happen to have different skills than you, because you’re too busy thinking you’re better than them to realize that you need each other.

Oof.

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Rebecca Bayuk's avatar

I enjoy all your work, but I am just LOVING your pieces on AI- so bloody good. Thank you for this

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